“I’d imagine the other billionaires are quite cross with Elon. Usually you try and do your influencing behind the scenes.” James Ball, journalist and author of The Other Pandemic: How QAnon Contaminated the World, speaks to Michael Safi about the political influence of Elon Musk. They discuss how Musk’s political views have developed, his support for Donald Trump, and his new role in the White House. “He is about to oversee, essentially, the US regulatory state. He could decide which regulators get appointed, which regulations stay, which go. If you’re the world’s richest man, the financial return on his new